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Title: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Inconspicuous on March 28, 2017, 06:06:46 PM
Are there more survival roguelikes out there? The only ones I know of are C:DDA and Wayward. Just curious.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: jacob.exe on March 28, 2017, 08:24:59 PM
Cataclysm: DDA has ruined my view on survival games. Every time I see or play them I can't help but feel like I have been lied to when I can't tear apart half of the tings around me and turn them into something completely different.

Anyways, I don't know if this falls into the category of roguelikes that you are looking for but you could try Project Zomboid, which is more CDDA like than roguelike. I also think there is a roguelike mode for Dwarf Fortress called adventurer mode, this one acts as an open world, RPG like, version of rogue set in the same worlds as DF's fortress mode.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: bostltch on March 28, 2017, 11:27:01 PM
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

This would be a good place to start
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: zaimoni on March 28, 2017, 11:51:08 PM
I second the Adventurer mode of Dwarf Fortress.

If being permanently squishy is acceptable, Rogue Survivor Revived (https://bitbucket.org/zaimoni/roguesurvivor-revived) is an option.  (There's also a thread here for that.  As the current maintainer, I recommend the stable version 0.9.9.8; the latest unstable does have better AI, but also takes minutes to load a saved game.)
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: §k on March 29, 2017, 02:47:59 AM
I would be surprised if you hadn't tried unreal world. DF adv mode is more of a combat arena, you can target every eye of a hydra, but you cann't cook a meat chunk.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: StopSignal on March 29, 2017, 03:13:13 AM
Unreal World! Also Rogue Survivor, if you aren't burnt out on zombies!
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: snow dwarf on March 29, 2017, 05:22:18 AM
UnrealWorld is awesome.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Vulpes_Inculta on April 02, 2017, 12:08:31 PM
Unreal World still feels very raw. It has a great atmosphere and awesome wound system (wish Cata had the same one) but everything else is lacking compared to CDDA...
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Inconspicuous on April 04, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
I'll be sure to take a look at all of these. Thanks for the suggestions!
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Solusphere on April 24, 2017, 03:08:48 AM
NEO Scavenger is another decent option, though it's pretty simplistic compared to most others in this list, and isn't free.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: wad67 on May 01, 2017, 12:12:50 AM
I'd like to second dwarf fortress adventure mode. Especially with mods that allow you to craft more stuff.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: snow dwarf on May 01, 2017, 01:21:56 AM
I'd like to second dwarf fortress adventure mode. Especially with mods that allow you to craft more stuff.
As said before, dwarf fortress is mostly about combat and there isn't too much other than that currently.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: TooDAMNMuch on May 27, 2017, 11:46:23 PM
Cataclysm: DDA has ruined my view on survival games. Every time I see or play them I can't help but feel like I have been lied to when I can't tear apart half of the tings around me and turn them into something completely different.

Anyways, I don't know if this falls into the category of roguelikes that you are looking for but you could try Project Zomboid, which is more CDDA like than roguelike. I also think there is a roguelike mode for Dwarf Fortress called adventurer mode, this one acts as an open world, RPG like, version of rogue set in the same worlds as DF's fortress mode.

so much this, i always hope i'll find another roguelike with some vehicle creation and modification system like cata, never happens though, unless i want to waste time on things like vehicle sandbox which aren't actual games.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Marduk on June 03, 2017, 04:01:03 PM
Cataclysm: DDA has ruined my view on survival games. Every time I see or play them I can't help but feel like I have been lied to when I can't tear apart half of the tings around me and turn them into something completely different.

Anyways, I don't know if this falls into the category of roguelikes that you are looking for but you could try Project Zomboid, which is more CDDA like than roguelike. I also think there is a roguelike mode for Dwarf Fortress called adventurer mode, this one acts as an open world, RPG like, version of rogue set in the same worlds as DF's fortress mode.

so much this, i always hope i'll find another roguelike with some vehicle creation and modification system like cata, never happens though, unless i want to waste time on things like vehicle sandbox which aren't actual games.
Might want to check out From the Depths. One of most complex vehicle creation and modification systems, allows everything from tanks through hydrofoil based ships to jets and spacecraft, also has custom designed weapons and engines.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Codeslamer on June 03, 2017, 07:07:30 PM
Cataclysm: DDA has ruined my view on survival games. Every time I see or play them I can't help but feel like I have been lied to when I can't tear apart half of the tings around me and turn them into something completely different.

Anyways, I don't know if this falls into the category of roguelikes that you are looking for but you could try Project Zomboid, which is more CDDA like than roguelike. I also think there is a roguelike mode for Dwarf Fortress called adventurer mode, this one acts as an open world, RPG like, version of rogue set in the same worlds as DF's fortress mode.

so much this, i always hope i'll find another roguelike with some vehicle creation and modification system like cata, never happens though, unless i want to waste time on things like vehicle sandbox which aren't actual games.
Might want to check out From the Depths. One of most complex vehicle creation and modification systems, allows everything from tanks through hydrofoil based ships to jets and spacecraft, also has custom designed weapons and engines.
This looks interesting, but is it hard to get into? I mean, the steam pictures have vehicles that look amazing, but somehow I doubt I'd manage much more than a square with engines
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Marduk on June 05, 2017, 10:45:10 PM
It takes many hours of practice to get into building quality stuff, but it's doable, there are also tutorials, both in game and on youtube.
There is also a massive library of both default and steam workshop vehicles to use until then, and to reverse engineer if you want to build ones with similar features.
Starting with reverse engineering and modifying existing vehicles is always a good idea.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: Chezzo on June 06, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
It all started here ladies and gentlemen, the very first airplane to ever crash and spill out someone who needs to eat and drink to survive.

https://classicreload.com/wilderness-a-survival-adventure.html

It is a pretty tough detailed game. You can fish, trap, build shelters, LOOK AZIMUTH to find directions, you gotta eat and drink and deal with being too warm and too cold. And as the manual points out, "Experts in the fields of toxic wild plants, human physiology, navigation, wilderness lore, thermal models, wildlife habits, meteorology, and terrain models have pooled their resources to create a precisely detailed environment."

http://apple2online.com/web_documents/wilderness_1.pdf

Whoa, and it totally WAS! The game was made by two dudes at NASA's Jet Propulsion Labs, Wesley Huntress and Charles Kohlhase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness:_A_Survival_Adventure#Development

Only I can't find a single thing spoiled in this game. I can only find the manual and one Let's Play from someone who didn't read the manual. Let's spoil it!
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: TooDAMNMuch on June 25, 2017, 01:32:28 AM
Might want to check out From the Depths. One of most complex vehicle creation and modification systems, allows everything from tanks through hydrofoil based ships to jets and spacecraft, also has custom designed weapons and engines.
This looks interesting, but is it hard to get into? I mean, the steam pictures have vehicles that look amazing, but somehow I doubt I'd manage much more than a square with engines

from the depths is middling to get into i'd say, i still hate the whole universe centered where you point style of building and always will, the game is fairly complex as well, it's a creativity kit first, a game second, it's like a lego mindstorms set with an infinite amount of pieces, if you're creative and a genius you'll probably create wonders with it, but effort will be your main limiter.

also, chezzo, one gamer who used to be familiar with dos to another, that game's not something i'd play for fun, if i want a completely accurate simulation of being stranded i can just do it for real, plus DOS was mostly tedium, i think that's why roguelikes do so much better, we got to leave the type until your fingers bleed hassle for the most part behind and cherrypick the good stuff.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: lootpack on July 12, 2017, 01:53:43 PM
Nobody mention Unreal World yet? It's an iron-age survival RL set in an open-world like Finland, some of the starting scenarios are quite challenging too.

And for post-apoc and turnbased, Neo Scavenger. Although there's too much inventory tetris in that one for me.
Title: Re: More survival roguelikes?
Post by: NuG on July 12, 2017, 05:39:07 PM
Nobody mention Unreal World yet? It's an iron-age survival RL set in an open-world like Finland, some of the starting scenarios are quite challenging too.

And for post-apoc and turnbased, Neo Scavenger. Although there's too much inventory tetris in that one for me.

They were mention briefly on the first page.

I briefly tried UW before trying CDDA, but haven't really played enough to make a review/judgement.

I haven't tried Neo Scavenger out myself yet, but have had it on my Steam wish list for a while.. might have to get that eventually.


Wayward is another game I've had my eye on, but it seems the reviews are leaning towards mixed now.. but I usually take Steam Reviews with a grain of salt. I believe there is a web version of it as well, but not as many features or something as the Full Version.

AuroraRL is another I've downloaded and yet to try, but I don't believe it is classed a "survival" RL. It still looks interesting to me though. It seems there is a Steam Version you can buy, or just go to their website and download it for free. Not sure if there is a difference in versions, or if the Steam version is just a way to help support the project.