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Offline Benedict

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Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« on: August 09, 2017, 05:31:08 PM »
Hi everyone!

I've got a few weeks off (one of the perks of teaching) and I was looking for a little project. I was thinking of putting together some simple guides on the wiki for intermediate players, advising them on the best way to train various skills.

I was thinking they could follow a set format, listing necessary tools, skill books, and a set of options for advancing each skill's level. Ideally, these options would be listed as fast or efficient, so that players can make an informed choice about the best way to train (e.g. it's faster to train fabrication by crafting shoulder straps from lvl 1 to 2, but more efficient in terms of resources to repeatedly craft and dismantle chairs).

If anyone has recommendations for good ways to train the various skills (crafting and combat), list them below and I'll start putting the guides together in a few days :)
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 05:37:53 PM »
Well on the drawing board I just posted to someone that one can train their mechanics skill by repeatedly prying open closed wooden doors. All you need is a pipe a means of hammering said pipe into a makeshift crowbar and a door that is pryable and most importantly of all for this method patience as it is slow and tedious like you would not believe but it is a sure way to train mechanics to as far as I can tell any level that doesn't require any other resources other than food and drink.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 06:15:09 PM »
Nice! That's a great example of an efficient option :P
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 06:18:11 PM »
Nice! That's a great example of an efficient option :P
It's only efficient in materials and the amount of skill required to start everything else it is rather inefficient at.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 06:36:16 PM »
My autohotkey macro for makeshift crowbar prying door:

F11::
face = 6
loop 50{
Send, +a
Sleep, 100
Send, %face%
Sleep, 500
Send, +c
Sleep, 100
Send, %face%
Sleep, 500
}
Send, +\
Sleep, 100
Send, 3
Sleep, 100
Return

Wield a crowbar, stand west to the door, and press f11.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 06:46:46 PM »
Nice! That's a great example of an efficient option :P
It's only efficient in materials and the amount of skill required to start everything else it is rather inefficient at.

Fair point. If anyone can think of a better word than "efficient" to describe a method which uses fewer resources but takes longer, I'll definitely use it. :)
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 07:20:14 PM »
Another note and I was rather disappointed when I figured this out but you get the same amount of experience for crafting one item as you do when bulk crafting. The moral of the story don't bulk craft to train skills at least in my experience it doesn't work.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2017, 07:36:08 PM »
Another note and I was rather disappointed when I figured this out but you get the same amount of experience for crafting one item as you do when bulk crafting. The moral of the story don't bulk craft to train skills at least in my experience it doesn't work.

Unless you are wanting to train NPCs also, then bulk craft exactly two at a time.
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 10:10:36 PM »
I remember seeing somewhere that you can really grind your computers skill by hacking eyebots. I mean, you'd need the hackerman laptop though, and I'm not sure just how easy that is to make. Not very, I think.
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 10:13:01 PM »
I remember seeing somewhere that you can really grind your computers skill by hacking eyebots. I mean, you'd need the hackerman laptop though, and I'm not sure just how easy that is to make. Not very, I think.
I think you do need decent computer skills and the hack pro software to make it + battery power. Although I think you may have misread it I am pretty sure you don't hack the eye bots but rather the robots that spawn when they take your picture.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 12:05:41 AM »
If anyone can think of a better word than "efficient" to describe a method which uses fewer resources but takes longer, I'll definitely use it. :)

I'd call it miserly. Like that guy who hung wet paper towels to dry so he wouldn't have to buy a new roll, it's cheap with resources (money) but lavish with the spare time.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 11:51:17 PM »
I trained my unarmed skill a bit by attacking an amebic mold, so I imagine that if you encounter one, equip the weakest weapon of the category that you want to train and just go to town on it, they are not aggressive and won't fight back, I also thought of the idea of equipping a really strong suit of armor (plate mail) and fighting a shogoth, since they regenerate, if you have a piece of armor they cannot get through you could easily train your weapon skill and melee (I haven't tested this but I imagine they can't beat power armor, not sure if the plate is enough tough...)
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 01:09:16 AM »
I trained my unarmed skill a bit by attacking an amebic mold, so I imagine that if you encounter one, equip the weakest weapon of the category that you want to train and just go to town on it, they are not aggressive and won't fight back, I also thought of the idea of equipping a really strong suit of armor (plate mail) and fighting a shogoth, since they regenerate, if you have a piece of armor they cannot get through you could easily train your weapon skill and melee (I haven't tested this but I imagine they can't beat power armor, not sure if the plate is enough tough...)
Also probably good for training dodging.

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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 05:20:24 AM »
If you got the dielectric capacitance system bionic, or anything that'll protect your survivor from electricity - plus a gas mask for smoke protection, I found that training melee skills (and perhaps ranged combat as well) can be rather easy by farming police and riot bots.

Punch a vending machine, wait for the eye bots, pose for their camera, and wait for the other bots to come. They got a tazer attack and a tear gas weapon, both of which can be protected against rather easily.
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Re: Wiki Guides - Skill training guides
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 12:07:13 AM »
Ideas for farming combat skills are good here. Thanks guys.

Anyone got any ideas for getting around focus limitations? I find that letting a weak monster attack you to train dodge is highly limited by focus and almost no better than simply engaging in normal combat.
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