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Churl Start?
« on: August 11, 2017, 04:15:48 PM »
I've wanted to try a start out in the wilderness, building up equipment and skills from the boondocks (and also build a vehicle from there and mark of one of the Gods of Cataclysm milestones) and figured the challenge-Medieval Peasant might be a good way to go, getting some early skills for the middle of nowhere start.  Unfortunately I'm having trouble and looking for some guidance.

I'm having trouble in two main area, the first being clothing.  It's always cold and I might as well be nude for all the warmth I'm not getting.  Being in the woods, there are VERY limited places to get rags, and I won't be making leather on day one.  Having a constant fire helps, but isn't great.

The second is the maddening hostility of the woods.  Normally taking on a Zed or two would be fine, but for some reason I'm getting wrecked and worse I always get infected.  I always try to run but always end up running into a mi-go or kreck and can't seem to outrun them.

Thoughts?

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 04:30:11 PM »
I've wanted to try a start out in the wilderness, building up equipment and skills from the boondocks (and also build a vehicle from there and mark of one of the Gods of Cataclysm milestones) and figured the challenge-Medieval Peasant might be a good way to go, getting some early skills for the middle of nowhere start.  Unfortunately I'm having trouble and looking for some guidance.

I'm having trouble in two main area, the first being clothing.  It's always cold and I might as well be nude for all the warmth I'm not getting.  Being in the woods, there are VERY limited places to get rags, and I won't be making leather on day one.  Having a constant fire helps, but isn't great.

The second is the maddening hostility of the woods.  Normally taking on a Zed or two would be fine, but for some reason I'm getting wrecked and worse I always get infected.  I always try to run but always end up running into a mi-go or kreck and can't seem to outrun them.

Thoughts?
Go to a different forest. One that doesn't have mi-gos or kreks. As for rags try to find one of the drugs gone wrong as from my experiences the migos are usually only around the scientists and soldiers.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 08:04:39 PM »
That's the solution I feared.  My current run I've managed to hold on.  I ran across both a campsite and a group of hiker corpses.  Not a lot of rags, but something close.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 02:16:34 AM »
If you've got triffids or fungaloids nearby, plant fiber can be turned into rags, too.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 02:28:19 AM »
If you've got triffids or fungaloids nearby, plant fiber can be turned into rags, too.
I forgot about that. For plant fiber acquisition I was mainly thinking about foraging just either raw plant fibers from bushes or crafting it from dogbane.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2017, 03:12:16 AM »
You can get some sinew from moose and bear, or a little plant fiber from dogbane and cattail. This is slow, so not practical.

The peasant is yanked from his idyllic village to the realm of Eastern Cannibal Pagan Empire. He is not going to build a cottage and raise hog, at least not now. Survival comes first, then style and conduct. I'd say one just does what an ordinary survivor does. Skirmishing zombies around the town, getting clothing, a lighter, and a makeshift crowbar.

Wool cloak already covers the torso well. What one wants are pants, boots, and some curtain sheets for gloves, hat, and scarf.

Mi-go bites hard but runs fast but it's actually slower than you. Alternating between running and walking, you can escape mi-go.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 03:21:50 AM »
You can get some sinew from moose and bear, or a little plant fiber from dogbane and cattail. This is slow, so not practical.

The peasant is yanked from his idyllic village to the realm of Eastern Cannibal Pagan Empire. He is not going to build a cottage and raise hog, at least not now. Survival comes first, then style and conduct. I'd say one just does what an ordinary survivor does. Skirmishing zombies around the town, getting clothing, a lighter, and a makeshift crowbar.

Wool cloak already covers the torso well. What one wants are pants, boots, and some curtain sheets for gloves, hat, and scarf.

Mi-go bites hard but runs fast but it's actually slower than you. Alternating between running and walking, you can escape mi-go.
Providing of course you don't get pain locked.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2017, 03:39:29 AM »
That's right. Mi-go doesn't worth fighting. One should run away and left it to zombies.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 03:42:28 PM »
You can get some sinew from moose and bear, or a little plant fiber from dogbane and cattail. This is slow, so not practical.

The peasant is yanked from his idyllic village to the realm of Eastern Cannibal Pagan Empire. He is not going to build a cottage and raise hog, at least not now. Survival comes first, then style and conduct. I'd say one just does what an ordinary survivor does. Skirmishing zombies around the town, getting clothing, a lighter, and a makeshift crowbar.

Wool cloak already covers the torso well. What one wants are pants, boots, and some curtain sheets for gloves, hat, and scarf.

Mi-go bites hard but runs fast but it's actually slower than you. Alternating between running and walking, you can escape mi-go.

Ahh, but the peasant starts in the wilderness, there are no houses and curtains around.  That's what makes it a difficult start.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 06:31:47 PM »
Walk straight to any direction and you will see "people" before noon...

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 09:29:30 AM »
Is there a swamp nearby? Turning cattail stalks and rhizomes into starch (a precursor of flour) produces a large amount of plant fiber, roughly 50 per cattail. You can potentially get thousands of units of plant fiber and near-infinite amounts of flour that way, though preparing it takes a fair bit of time. I think making starch only needs cooking 1, whereas flour needs cooking 2.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 08:03:26 PM »
Do cat tails grow back?

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2017, 04:04:05 PM »
So, finding corpses has been the biggest savior and really is key to surviving a Churl start.  Wild Veggies and cattails have been life savors as well.

I've managed to get a full smithy up and running to make higher end gear but I came to a new disappointment:

1)  I can't make a screw driver.  You need duct tape, but without being able to read you can't get the recipe to make duct tape.
2)  Either my tailoring/mechanics/fabrication skills aren't high enough, or I need a book to get the recipes for plate or chain mail armor.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2017, 06:10:37 PM »
So, finding corpses has been the biggest savior and really is key to surviving a Churl start.  Wild Veggies and cattails have been life savors as well.

I've managed to get a full smithy up and running to make higher end gear but I came to a new disappointment:

1)  I can't make a screw driver.  You need duct tape, but without being able to read you can't get the recipe to make duct tape.
2)  Either my tailoring/mechanics/fabrication skills aren't high enough, or I need a book to get the recipes for plate or chain mail armor.
Plate male requires a book chain mail I think needs to be found. Also yeah I find it a bit dumb that you need duct tape to make a screwdriver. Sure you need to grip it somehow but if you can make a rod with a philips head by hammering it together this is where I say if you can't find the tape just edit the recipe and say you made a grip out of tightly wrapped rags or something.

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Re: Churl Start?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2017, 06:47:42 PM »
Also yeah I find it a bit dumb that you need duct tape to make a screwdriver. Sure you need to grip it somehow but if you can make a rod with a philips head by hammering it together this is where I say if you can't find the tape just edit the recipe and say you made a grip out of tightly wrapped rags or something.

Take a rod of metal, say 12".  Sharpen one end into a screwdriver.  Bend said rod 90 degrees at about the half-way point.  Bam, no "grip" required.

A screwdriver SET?  Yeah, you need specialized stuff... but a basic screwdriver?  Heck, a butter knife works passably well for most things.
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