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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2013, 08:40:35 PM »
All I can say is - WOW!
And now, for a new, red dawn...
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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2013, 10:12:54 PM »
The front page says it supports ATOM & RSS, but my reader couldnt find any feeds at http://en.cataclysmdda.com/posts

What URL should I be using?

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2013, 10:18:57 PM »
Also the windows binaries links are broken

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2013, 10:22:18 PM »
It seems weird to me that a branch of an open-source game would need a kick-starter to begin with. Donations are one thing..but in the end someone is going to profit off of it. Is any of this money going to repay Whales for even giving birth to the game that you are going to be collecting money for? I know it's already a heavy heavy modification, but in the end, it's still his brainchild and such. Not bitching or anything, just my 2 cents. I'll go back to lurking now.

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2013, 10:31:07 PM »
Maybe slap a link (and timer?) to the nightly builds on the side bar as well?

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2013, 10:55:36 PM »
Teseng, no, because the money isn't really for the game - neither myself, kevin granade or Darkling Wolf are likely to be seeing a dime of it either. And its hard to call it a profit for Soron when success in this case means a significant pay cut. Open source games have a cost, usually measured in developer time, and the kickstarter will be solely a way for us to be able to get more of it.. It IS a donation system - that's how kickstarter works. Its just a donations system attached to an obligation on our part. This is not money we are receiving in exchange for things that happened in the past, but so that we can do something more in the future (and also a chance for me to justify making a cataclysm poster :P)

Me and kevin and DW will still be working for free, as will soron if the kickstarter falls through,.

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2013, 12:03:33 AM »
Well, there are as many as twenty websites that host open-source projects, many of them are funded through advertising, webrings and such. To see this game amongst those would be a bliss - and hear me, there are much less time-consuming projects that achieved a shareware status.
The aim is, since distribution was free when I registered here, once the licensing was announced I anticipated this step in game development. Devs are strongly encouraged to find and take marketing sites of the kind into account, since everything dealing with consumer's market is further handled by the site base. I know how business can be demanding, and the deal is - the ratings, the comments and user input is away from this site/board, which in my opinion is a developers' corner with a contributors fanbase.
Personally I try and stay the hell away from business I'm not running, so I will nicely apologize for lack of links that could come into discussion. That, and the legal/commercial side.
Just one more tip, if I may - don't mirror Kickstarter with other fundraiser projects.
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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2013, 12:17:42 AM »
Fair enough GlyphGrpyh, and I see your point. I suppose this is more like funding to hire someone to help with the project rather than funding for the project itself, right? I'm cool with this :D

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2013, 12:35:13 AM »
Everyone relax. The main dev team for DDA have always been awesome. I can hardly see them wasting huge amounts of cash for no reason, and I'm sure their requests will be modest.

Also a kickstarter can be a good way to raise awareness about the game, as well as to enable further development. Remember every player who learns about DDA is a potential contributor to the development process!
Think you can write a good guide to DDA?

Please add to the guides on the wiki: http://www.wiki.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?title=Category:Guides

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2013, 12:57:35 AM »
Ah, new website and that official announcement, cool :). The nightly builds aren't linked any more, though - it's been very helpful having user feedback from those, so I'd like to see that link posted again. It also looks like the forums don't have a favicon any more, and cookies got invalidated, but those are more minor issues.

As for the CC-BY-SA license: first of all, the "SA" bit means that even if we put the game behind a paywall (which is a silly thing to do in the first place), the first person to purchase the game would have access to the full source, and could distribute it for free. So that doesn't really make sense. Second, it was actually Whales who chose the CC-BY-SA license; we're just following his lead (since, y'know, primary author and all).

In terms of Kickstarter funding goals: the goals we're looking at are basically just enough to let me work on Cataclysm full-time without worrying about things like rent and food. So, don't worry about us trying to gouge the players, that's not our intent. We're just trying to accelerate the pace at which we can make Cataclysm more awesome :).

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2013, 01:27:10 AM »
If you need translators I can help with spanish.

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2013, 01:52:12 AM »
Fair enough GlyphGrpyh, and I see your point. I suppose this is more like funding to hire someone to help with the project rather than funding for the project itself, right? I'm cool with this :D

Yep, you've got it. The project itself is in no way dependent on the kickstarter, the kickstarter project is solely based around getting a full time developer, and I think it's obvious to everyone the game will continue to be developed without one, since that's how it got where it is right now and I can't see additional attention changing that. :P

It does mean one of our main contributors won't be able to suddenly disappear though! Heheh.

Thanks for the feedback on the website, I'll try to fix the broken stuff and add back the missing stuff tonight.

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2013, 03:53:00 AM »
Just for the record, I think it's awesome that you guys are taking this step to advance the game. I cant wait to see what this will entail!

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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2013, 04:10:44 AM »
Talking about internationalization, perhaps the code needs to be in utf-8 encoding (or windows code page which is not as good since it is platform dependent, but easier to code anyway) first. The curse needs to be rewrite to support multibyte characters (so wall symbols need to be changed). A non-ascii character may also have different size,  for example, most if not all mono-space fonts have cjk characters twice as wide as alpha-beta characters. So if we print a string at (x, y), it may cut the character at (x-1, y) and produce a junky character.

I guess the most hard part is grammar and menu layout, which requires the translator to under stand the code and make his own change.  Because the game was written base on English grammar, it will be a long way to make it "foreign" language friendly.

I'm curious if someone has a good solution.
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Re: New Website Launched, Kickstarter Announced!
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2013, 04:29:09 AM »
You're wrong.
Code Page app character generation doesn't work that way.
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If you load a SH*TLOAD.PNG, or a JENNAHAZ_01.RAW into the screen, it'll keep the intended formatting.
As once I said - there are no buts, only bits. Keep your inputs for the Contributions&Mods section.

Now, how about some alpha blending for those shiny ANSIs? :D
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