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Offline Grand sage

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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1290 on: September 20, 2017, 10:47:03 PM »
Can you put a seat belt on a saddle? cause If so, im gonna do it, but if not... well, im not saving the game ;P
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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1291 on: September 20, 2017, 10:55:13 PM »
Can you put a seat belt on a saddle? cause If so, im gonna do it, but if not... well, im not saving the game ;P

Screenshots or it didn't happen! Don't forget your V8, you have a spare in your handlebar basket. Have fun storming the castle!
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« Reply #1292 on: September 21, 2017, 12:34:50 AM »
Definitely going for the motorcycle feel. So probably more saddle then seat anyways.

As for the engines, that's gonna be real helpful, thx! However, I count 3 solar panels? all on the back row?.

I'd love to have both gasoline and diesel engines, but I cant see where they should go :P

So, I quickly built the vehicle from Scratch with cheats, in order to get a better feeling for it.
First off: Ingame motorcycles are 4 tiles long. You might want do keep it that way, so it looks nicer.
Secondly: I kinda lied I realized. There is a damn V12 Diesel Engine. Must be one of the newer additions, because I have never seen that thing.
Third: Seatbelts & 5 Point Harness isn't a thing with a saddle. You really kinda want a Seatbelt or a harness, it's your choice in the end though. I kept it like you wanted, with a saddle.

With all that out of the way, I used more common ressources (car battery instead of storage battery for example) to build you vehicle. Even included your mirrors, even though they are still unnecessary.

On the left side is how it looks when you're not on it, the right side is how it looks when driving it.
As it stands, the Vehicle i quickly made has space to spare. It has 3 engines (Diesel, Gasoline, Electric), 2 Vehicle Tanks (1 gas, 1 diesel. There is place for more, if wanted), 2 batteries and your box.
If you're interested, I can give you the save file and you can look at it more closely. Or I guess I could do it with images as well, since it's a relatively small vehicle.
You could even put a water purifier + a tank on the tile with the box, get rid of the solar panel overhead and put a funnel in its place and you could have drinking water without the vehicle looking different.

Now, to the electric engine itself:
A small electric engine has a safe/top speed of 8/16 mph. It's acceleration '0' mph/t, but it's pretty close to 1 once you started. Moving a few sqares already drained one of the car batteries from 100% to 97%, which is roughly 75 power units from the 2500 of the battery. Driving anything higher than 8 will break the electric motor pretty quickly too, so that's not an option.
Exchanging the small electric motor witha normal sized one and switching out the batteries to storage batteries will give you a safe speed of 40, with an acceleration of 3. the Storage batteries have a capacity of 40k power units, so they should, for all intent and purpose, hold a little bit longer than the car batteries with the small motor, but not by much.
Only using a V12 Diesel engine gives you a safe speed of 344 with an acceleration of 28.
Only using a V12 Gas engine gives you a safe speed of 317 with an acceleration of 25.
Using BOTH fuel engines gives you a safe speed of 529 with an acceleration of 43. Driving either of them for more than a few seconds will drain the tanks, I lost around 1.5L of Diesel/gasoline for...eh, let it be 20 tiles?
And holy damn, do you have to be careful with those speeds. I crashed into some trees because the acceleration was way too much xD The Electric Engine will drain the storage batteries at a relatively slow rate as long as you drive during the day and keep your speed around 30 mph. Still, they are draining. Driving around an evac shelter took around 2% off.

Overall, looking at the Speed of the fuel engines, you could easily use V8's or even V/I 6 Engines and you probably still hit a safe speed of around 100 - this would also lower the overall weight of the vehicle, making the electric motor a bit faster in the process.

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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1293 on: September 21, 2017, 12:56:26 AM »
Wow, thx, thats a lot of info right there!

Im playing with ascii graphics, so looks are relatively unimportant :P

I think a safe speed of 300 mph is already more than I bargained for, so i might just stick with one type of fuel and the electric motor. I am however still tempted in keeping the saddle, though the mirrors might go... I think the idea of this vehicle is to move me around between far-away bases (not that I have those yet, still trying to find a damn hacksaw), at least at those high speeds, so i would already know the route. Still, thanks a lot for the advise!
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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1294 on: September 21, 2017, 08:36:37 PM »
I just test-built one of these, but with light wooden frames, and a floor trunk for the best weight/storage ratio (2.2 lbs/87500 storage) and with just a foot crank it has a speed of 17/59, with an acceleration of 1 for my all-10 stat test guy. So doable, but you'd better have some lead on any zombies that are chasing you if you don't want them to whack your bike a couple of times.

 Slapping on three solar panels to it, a car  battery, and a small electric motor, gives you a safe speed of 20/60, and an acceleration of 2. This will drain the battery pretty quickly, but it means you can accelerate to a decent speed and then maintain it indefinitely with almost no stamina spent, even with 5 steel frames filling the trunk for an added 220 pounds, nearly doubling the bike's weight. You can even do 30 mph for a while if you're willing to burn stamina, it seems to put the excess load on your legs instead of the motor, so it didn't break it in my testing.
  Upgraded solar panels still aren't enough to maintain the battery, and are heavier, so they're not really worth it.

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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1295 on: October 12, 2017, 04:51:58 AM »
https://imgur.com/a/hZcFX
I like how the slime frames are just hard to make for the first time, and after that, boom!, you got yourself a pretty fortress.
Is basically all slime *u*(except for a few parts), i like to roleplay that im the slime core inside a big slime (like the one from the old games)





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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1296 on: October 12, 2017, 09:42:45 PM »
Would it work to make a corpse harvester with something at the front to kill zombies by raming them and some scoops under it to pick up the corpses ?
I don't know how scoops works since I never got to use it .

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Re: Vehicle Show and Tell
« Reply #1297 on: October 12, 2017, 11:33:36 PM »
Would it work to make a corpse harvester with something at the front to kill zombies by raming them and some scoops under it to pick up the corpses ?
I don't know how scoops works since I never got to use it .
you need to turn ON the scoops (i didnt know that at that moment) and for what i have seen, scoops just pick up one thing on the same tile per turn (so if there is a tile with a dropped item and a corpse for example, it would need 2 turns on the same tale to pick up both).
But yes, it works, i recomend putting them on the  middle or end of the vehicle (just to be sure they are dead) and to still butcher them, if i recall it correctly, a corpse yields like 25 blob feed, but if you butcher it and get lucky, you can have 4 chunks of meat and 4 bones, for a total of 50 blob feed.
But they are worth it, if the piece isnt too damaged, they repair they selfs